We had this Leo Camarillo roper made by Courts to give away at one of our ropings. The winner wanted cash instead so we obliged. We have been using it ever since as a back up saddle. If you have ever ridden a Courts saddle, you know they are one of the heaviest, well made saddles around. The saddle is fully tooled, has a 15 1/2 inch seat, and reads Brandhorst Arena on both fenders. This saddle is a nice heavy roping saddle in excellent condition and is a great deal at 650. We are cleaning out our tack room and will be listing other saddles as well. Email for more pics or additional information.